BREAKING NEWS: Coming out of yesterday’s workshop and in a good faith effort to work with the BLM to drastically change the management of our wild herds the protest today will be not take place. However, should BLM not move forward in truly working with the public and beginning to enact a moratorium or drastic reduction in roundups than the public will again hit the streets across the US and overseas to protest the ongoing destruction of our wild herds. Thank you!
ON LUNCH: Breaking for lunch at meeting here in Denver but please join us again at 1:00pm MST via livestream– thanks to XTOMIC for livestreaming this meeting. We hope BLM will take on the livestreaming of all meetings and workshops in the future to demonstrate public inclusion for all interested. We hope to have powerpoints posted online and readable as well.
Will update during the day– public will be protesting 11am-1:00pm today starting in front of the Magnolia Hotel – public comment period begins at 3pm, sign up by 12:00 noon to speak
II. Public Meeting: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 (8 a.m. to 5 p.m.)
8 a.m. Call to Order & Introductions
8:15 a.m. Old Business Approval of Deceember 7, 2009 Minutes Response to Recommendations
9 a.m. Progrram Updates: Gathers, Adoptions, Budget, Facility and Pipeline Reports
Break (9:45 a.m.10 a.m.)
10 a.m. Program Updates ates (continued)
Lunch (11:45 a.m.1 p.m.) Register by 12:00 pm to speak during the 3pm public comment period– expect to have 2-3 minutes to speak.
1 p.m. New Business
Break (2:45 p.m.3 p.m.)
3 p.m. Public Commentents
4 p.m. Board Recommendations
4:45 p.m. Recap/Summary/Next Meeting/Date/SSite
5 p.m. Adjourn
Border patrol currently has 60 mustangs, mostly trained at Canon City—
Canon City can train 130 horses/ year – halter and/or saddle trained
Fran Ackley, CO State Lead for WH&B program—18 years in this job- CO summary
Sandwash, our largest in population, working with HSUS on fertility control, research project
2008 – 62 mares given PZP-22 (also several hundred horses removed and 6 killed)
setting up bait stations to remotely dart mares
5 year study, hope to have prelim results later this summer
(thousands of sheep over-grazing the area not discussed so far)
Little Book Cliffs– one of 3 horse ranges, no livestock in the area- successful in
possible gather in 2011 (first time going 4 years between dartings.
Over the last 10 years they’ve increased AML by 32%, aquired private lands within
changed status on 3500 acres from HA to HMA status. Have improved springs, cattle guards etc to improve HMAs
Have space for 3000 horses in Canon City- dept of corrections paid for
working hard to finish construction of 4th
trim, vaccinate, deworm 800-1000 horses per month.
Saddle horses offered $1025, $900 goes to dept of corrections—covers cost of feed and upkeep and training. $125 goes to BLM
Could adopt out more saddle trained horses at $1025 than untrained at $125
Halter trained horses offered at $200-500 depending on size, conformation etc.
Border patrol horses used on southern and northern borders- very successful
10 horses in inauguration parade— all had been off the range less than 2 years!!
BLM works with Westernairs, kids 9-18 years old, riding drills and reenactments, trick riding etc- they’ve adopted over 60 horses in the past 20 years.
$2.70/head/day if under 2500 horses
$2.65/head/day if over 2500 horses at Canon City
Horses level the playing field in prison—small guys are sometimes the best with the horses.
Advisory Board Meeting minutes from last Dec have been approved and will be posted within ten days.
Made 3 recommendations last December:
- Board recommended that FS create a specific line item for WH&B in their budget… and planned mega roundups
- BLM further enhance and centralize public comments—have 227 comments so far. Haven’t been as many as expected. Once this is easier to find people actually might comment. Strategy Plan is now online with comment—they’ve been having a lot of problems with everything. Suggests you copy and paste comments.
Status of 2009 nominations for the board—Don Glenn
3 positions to be re-appointed : livestock management, wildlife management and humane advocacy.
Now resting in Dept of Ag. either concurs or doesn’t then those members will be appointed to board. No issue regarding the names.
about to expire: Federal Resister will post soon—within 14 days. PLEASE
wild horse and burro research , nat. resource position and the public interest position with special knowledge of equine behavior (this is instead of a 2nd livestock management position)
charter approved for 2010-2012, has been signed by Salazar – waiting on Secretary Vilsack
Ginger Kathrens asks why the board can’t work out getting questions answered between bi-annual meetings rather than dragging out. Board replies that things are held up in the
Sue Wallis asks why we don’t have a equine industry person on the board since wild horses compete with the horse industry. Don Glenn replies that the new position “public interest with specific horse knowledge” pretty much fits that bill
6380 horses have been rounded up so far. Gather schedule has changed again. 7097 horses to be rounded up this summer. July 1 is the start.
Larry Johnson- rock creek horses have gone outside their roundup. why are you only removing 50? We continually hear that so much land has been zeroed out but we aren’t censusing the zeroed out areas. there are devastating the areas and spilling into private lands
please note that Larry Johnson has been anti-wild horse and has been on the board for more than a decade. He represents “environmental interest” but is no environmentalist and is the former (?) president of the Bighorn Sheep (trophy) hunting club.
Susie Stokee—a lot of these horses are tribal horses and clearly we might have to do something about them but those areas were declared horse free.
Larry continues to discuss how BLM can not gather all the horses and while they do their best to zero out herds identified to be zeroed out, they can’t get them all.
This board does not begin to represent the public.
Do land use plans need to be current within 3-5 years before a roundup can go forward?
NO says BLM
One board member suggests that we are down 2000 horses from hoped-for removals and questions why this is.
I’d like to recommend that having a Public Advisory Board that actually holds the BLM accountable and represents the public and gives and discusses real, viable and sustainable fixes for this broken program would go a long way in building the public trust. –MS
Long Term Holding—Lily Thomas discusses how they are adding contracts for holding of 10,000 more horses
Don Glenn gives rundown with unreadable powerpoint of the upcoming budget—will request that this powerpoint be made available to the public as a PDF. Discusses President’s budget and other details. millions and millions of dollars— $77.2 million budget still doesn’t meet goals. Expecting to have National Academy of Science to look at
3.4 million for fertility control- catch and release gathers planned
roughly 1200 mares will be treated
overhead went up too. what they presented yesterday was a bit outdated, this is more updated.
requested $42 million for acquiring land
we have to talk to them on almost a weekly basis to try to get them to give us that.
This is in addition to the $77.2 million asked for in FY 2011—total of $119.2 million for the BLM wild horse and burro program in FY 2011.
No money should be given to BLM for removals or acquisition of private lands!!!
Janet Jankura: why the decrease in marketing dollars for adoptions and awareness? the public is asking for more information and maybe we aren’t the best at marketing so maybe we should hire professional marketers.
Don Glenn- if we can find more money for mustang heritage foundation and marketing along the year we will.
Patti Colbert gave a great presentation on the Mustang Heritage Foundation mentioning and emphasizing that they too want to see wild horses on the range, in their homes and that is where they belong but they are working hard to find homes for the horses already captured and celebrating the American mustang.
Larry Johnson- does the land acquisition allow for leasing rather than aqusisition? – Bud Cribley says no.
Dr. Al Kane (B is speaking now about SpayVac mare surgeries and PZP infertility control (please note Mr. Kane’s membership in the committee on the planned killing of our wild horses in holding and off the range in secret BLM planning documents revealed via the Freedom of Information Act by the Conquistador Project. Many others here were also a part of those conversations discussing sterilization, gelding herds, killing on the range, avoiding public/congressional exposure of killing etc)
Dr. Kane is discussing how to spay pregnant mares and tesiting safely
“spaying a mare is only part of the battle, there are no studies on efficacy of spaying mares to reduce wild horse reproduction on the range”- Dr. Al Kane
we didn’t talk too much about permanent agents for infertility a few years ago, they were kind of taboo. (murmer through crowd- they still are)
“The rules are changing. The board in general supports a cautious approach but I was looking at it and it takes 5 years for corral studies, 5 years for range studies… I remember sitting on this board ten years ago and asking the same questions [and we haven’t made any progress].” *note that as per the BLM Advisory Board Charter there should be no more than 2 year terms
“When we get to AML (27,000 nationally) how many mares will we have to treat to stay at AML. It is scientifically impossible to treat enough mares to maintain AML.”
Present at meeting (will continue to update)
Shane (PR person)
Kearns and West Mediator (PR agency)