Updated Roundup Schedule

Revised Roundup Schedule of 2/17/10: Click here to download latest Roundup_Schedule

Next planned roundup of 50 horses just outside of Eagle Herd Management Area is slated to start on March 10th.

(last version of roundup schedule here for comparison)

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42 Responses to “Updated Roundup Schedule”

  1. Lisa LeBlanc Says:

    I’ve looked all over the BLM Herd Area map and can’t find where the Eagle HMS lies.
    Somebody point me in the right direction, please.

  2. Marilyn Wargo Says:

    Near Ely. It is there in the Nevada BLM site. It is several together. Let me send you something… mar

  3. Janet Ferguson Says:

    Why does a September 2010 roundup schedule show actual removed?
    What is this c*&p?????

    • Janet Ferguson Says:

      Are they rounding them up every year in the same places that they already have Actual Rounded Up figures?

    • Marilyn Wargo Says:

      Beats me, JF… they are so weird. I think they want to use all their numbers to be safe? Hit or miss… no way to manage wild horses. BLM please cease and desist. Now. We are not going away, lessen the struggle and your own bad press and stop. Now. mar

  4. Lisa LeBlanc Says:

    Please Understand – I am informing, not defending:
    The gather for these particular Wild Ones is going to be done by bait trap, not aerial. This according to today’s Ely News. It’s supposed to occur near the Highway 93 corridor because the Wild Ones have stepped off the reservation. I think I’d rather have them suckered by food and water than bloodied and brutalized from the air.
    However, after 4 hours of research, I have yet to find a single example of a Horse versus Vehicle accident between Ely and Pinoche, either reported by the Nevada Highway Patrol or Law Enforcement. But I found an archive for 2003 – 209 Deer versus Vehicle accidents much further north.

    • Marilyn Wargo Says:

      Lisa, If they cannot produce any documentation I say it is here say… BS. mar

      • Lisa LeBlanc Says:

        Now, Mar, you know how hard it is to distinguish between a horse and a deer from a moving car; in many reports, you can exchange the word ‘deer’ for ‘horse’ and get ANY RESULT YOU WANT!!
        That was very immature of me, and I don’t care.

      • Laura Evans Says:

        It was only immature if you stuck out your tongue and said “So there!”

        I stumbled across something just a little while ago. Apparently there is a National Taxpayers Union. It’s a taxpayers advocacy organization. I haven’t looked into it too closely but I’m wondering if this might be a group to have on our side because of the wasted taxpayers money involved in the BLM’s managment practices.

      • Janet Ferguson Says:

        Be sure it doesn’t include SS or AVMA or Jim Sacia of IL

      • Christine Says:

        Except when the animal is dead, like they usually are when hit by a vehicle on a highway, its pretty easy to distinguish between a horse and a deer. Also, horses are heavier and do a lot more damage to vehicles. And they’re not deer color.

        It might be a good idea to check the state Department of Transportation instead, since in my state at least they’re responsible for road kill. If a horse was killed but the vehicle was not disabled (semis don’t even slow down) and didn’t bother to stop and report the accident, then there wouldn’t be an accident report with law enforcement, but there might be a listing of dead animals removed from the road.

        You learn a lot from tow truck drivers when you hit an elk two hundred miles from the ‘nearest repair facility’ that your insurance will let you use. 😉

  5. LOUIE COCROFT Says:

    MUCH OF THAT WOULD BE OPEN RANGE, WOULDN’T IT? HORSES ON THE ROAD ARE DANGEROUS, BUT SO ARE CATTLE. I DOUBT THAT THEY HAVE CATTLE GUARDS. WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH OPEN COUNTRY, YOU WATCH FOR ANIMALS–THAT’S JUST THE WAY IT IS. THERE ARE LOT’S OF “WATCH FOR DEER” SIGNS AND “OPEN RANGE” SIGNS ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY.

    • Janet Ferguson Says:

      Good point, Louie.

      BLM’s “road rage” is just more propaganda on why horses must be removed I guess. . .

      Someone on this blog earlier pointed out people feed the horses and the fences along the highways (if at all) are in disrepair. People put out food what do they expect?

  6. LOUIE COCROFT Says:

    I THINK THAT NOW IS THE TIME TO START TALKING ABOUT “RESERVE DESIGN” THAT CRAIG DOWNER SPEAKS OF. HE KNOWS HOW TO IMPLEMENT IT. THE GOVERNMENT IS KIND OF LIKE THAT OLD STORY ABOUT THE FARMER AND MULE–THE FARMER SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE REAL PATIENT WITH A MULE, BUT AFTER HE HITS THE MULE ALONG SIDE OF THE HEAD WITH A 2 x 4, HE SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO GET THE MULE’S ATTENTION FIRST. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. WE NEED TO GET THEIR ATTENTION SO THAT THEY WILL LISTEN TO PEOPLE LIKE CRAIG.

  7. Janet Ferguson Says:

    Tell Madeleine Pickens to call Craig Downer and haul him over to her meeting with Ken. lol

    MP does have a website where you can contact her. BLM’s getting their money for next year, right? Or is that still “up in the air?”

    As long as they got their money, what size 2X4 is needed?????

  8. LOUIE COCROFT Says:

    I LISTENED TO T. BOONE PICKENS ON C-SPAN ONCE. HE SAID “BASEBALL BAT”. THAT BAT IS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

  9. LOUIE COCROFT Says:

    HOW’S ABOUT WE ALL EMAIL MADELEINE AND ASK THAT CRAIG BE BROUGHT IN–HE IS THE MAN FOR THE JOB.

  10. LOUIE COCROFT Says:

    JANET–GOOD IDEA. THE STUDY CAN BE CONDUCTED ON THE SANCTUARY WHICH WILL HOLD ALL OF THE HORSES WHICH ARE TO BE RELEASED–AND THAT MEANS ALL OF THE HORSES.

  11. Janet Ferguson Says:

    Louie, I am working on a rough draft of a letter to MP: this is what I have so far. . . :

    “Dear Mrs. Pickens,

    We are fortunate to have you as a committed and generous person involved in the wild horse and burro issues of today. When I say “we” I include not only this nation’s taxpayers, but this nation’s individuals with a desire to find a way to provide stewardship for the wild horses and burros so they may remain a living symbol of this great nation and our historical and ongoing spirit of independence, toughness, and individuality.

    When I say “we” I mean those special visionaries, such as yourself, who can see into the future from a high place of spirituality and gratitude for the beauty, majesty and perfection for which we all, every American, strives every day. We strive, as our forefathers have, and as our children and grandchildren, and their children and grandchildren will, to make this great nation ever greater, and to treasure those unique and beautiful worlds, both man made and God-created, that we now recognize in this country as intrinsic to our identity.

    Our battles are not over, our victories are not yet won. What makes our country so great is the good fight. The hurly-burly of politics, but the voice of the people, heard above the throng, and all the truly great things coveted by a great people.

    One of our most unique and fragile and yet inspiring places is our Great American West.
    No one could ever doubt the power of these places and the courage of these people with all the sacrifices of every race and generation that have occurred on this majestic stage.

    A voice for our wild horses and burros cries today in the wilderness of this great endeavor as our country reinvents itself every day God sends. This voice is Craig Downer, who through his love for the wild horses and burros has devoted himself to gaining the knowledge required to save these majestic and important equids on America’s public lands, and the humanity to share his wealth of knowledge and to recognize their spiritual place in American history.

    I urge you to consider Craig Downer’s knowledge and contribution to the fight for the wild horses and burros and to consider his words. He has given a great deal of thought to the nuts and bolts of what might define a sanctuary for wild equids, from a wildlife biologist’s viewpoint. And as I explained, above all, he seems to understand their rightful place in America’s collective consciousness as a living symbol of freedom.

    Please consider including Craig Downer in all your future endeavors and a kindred spirit and as one of the best qualified, both by graciousness of his nature and singlemindedness of his cause, as a true ally in saving America’s legacy that is our wild horses and burros.

    JUMP IN ANYWHERE HERE — ADDITIONS, SUBTRACTIONS?

    • Janet Ferguson Says:

      P.S. This paragraph –from Mrs. Picken’s website — should be referred to or included in the letter, too:

      “The Secretary offered to let me serve on a small committee that he is forming to address the issue of excess wild horses and to look at a full range of solutions to this problem. I have accepted his offer and look forward to representing our wild horses and all of you as we look for a solution that is good for the wild horses and for the American people.

      • Janet Ferguson Says:

        Ms. Pickens surely seems to want to “bring “us” — as she indicates she wishes to represent “all of us” — to heel, as it were. Or not? You be the judge.

        ?

      • Marilyn Wargo Says:

        Yeah, We prime the campaign and others broker deals… I do not see the end as yet, there is still too much to accomplish. And certain parties still need to be held accountable for abuses and neglect. mar

    • Marilyn Wargo Says:

      Gads, JF I wondered where This was going!! Craig, cool…

      Madeleine, we are the people and HSUS and even yourself are not wit US. mar

      • Janet Ferguson Says:

        Warning you are now entering the department of hyperbole where the department of redundancy meets with the forces of verbosity.

    • Lisa LeBlanc Says:

      Lordy, Lordy, Girl! but you got you a silver tongue, er, pen, keyboard…whatever.
      Lofty, poetic, NEIGH, gospel-like in it’s fervor and magnanimity; you possesseth the divination of literary platitude and etched, in perpetuity, the visionary meanderings and grandiose contrivances of

      Oh, Hell; what was I sayin’?

  12. LOUIE COCROFT Says:

    DO YOU THINK MADELEINE’S SANCTUARY COULD BE FOR THE HORSES IN HOLDING PENS? WHAT IS TO HAPPEN TO THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN GELDED–HOW DO THEY FIT BACK INTO A HERD? THE ONES THAT CAN BECOME A VIABLE HERD CAN GO BACK ONTO THEIR OWN GROUND THAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THEM? I WORRY ABOUT THAT. THEY DESERVE TO HAVE THEIR FREEDOM AND A GOOD LIFE. MY THOUGHT IS THAT MADELEINE COULD LOCK IN SOME GROUND FOR THEM, AND EVENTUALLY, A VIABLE HERD COULD BE ESTABLISHED. IT IS ALL GOING TO TAKE TIME. I JUST WANT TO SEE THEM OUT OF THOSE PRISON CAMPS.

  13. LOUIE COCROFT Says:

    JANET, YOUR LETTER IS GREAT JUST AS IT IS–SEND IT!

  14. LOUIE COCROFT Says:

    WOW, I FEEL AS THOUGH I JUST ENTERED AN ADVANCED LITERATURE CLASS–I THINK THERE ARE SOME WRITERS ON THIS BLOG.

  15. Janet Ferguson Says:

    Going once, going twice. This is my “final draft” and will send if it will fit on her website comment page. If not, I shall attempt to deliver it through other channels. Thank you for your support.

    I still have no idea how Mr. Downer feels about this — but we are all in this: Louie, JF (me), Mar — I will sign the letter, Sincerely, Louie, Mar and me. haha not really.
    *****
    Dear Mrs. Pickens,

    We are fortunate to have you as a committed and generous person involved in the wild horse and burro issues of today. When I say “we” I include not only this nation’s taxpayers, but this nation’s individuals with a desire to find a way to provide stewardship for the wild horses and burros so they may remain a living symbol of this great nation and our historical and ongoing spirit of independence, toughness, and individuality.
    When I say “we” I mean those special visionaries, such as yourself, who can see into the future from a high place of spirituality and gratitude for the beauty, majesty and perfection for which we all, every American, strives every day. We strive, as our forefathers have, and as our children and grandchildren, and their children and grandchildren will, to make this great nation ever greater, and to treasure those unique and beautiful worlds, both man made and God-created, that we now recognize in this country as intrinsic to our identity.
    Our battles are not over, our victories are not yet won. What makes our country so great is the good fight. The hurly-burly of politics, but the voice of the people, heard above the throng, and all the truly great things coveted by a great people.
    One of our most unique and fragile and yet inspiring places is our Great American West. No one could ever doubt the power of these places and the courage of these people with all the sacrifices of every race and generation that have occurred on this majestic stage.

    *********(addition)************
    I am writing to you today regarding the Secretary’s “small committee” referred to on your webpage, “that …is forming to address the issue of excess wild horses and to look at a full range of solutions to this problem,” and to bring an individual of worth to your attention, with full acknowledgement of the many individuals from all walks who are also committed to this endeavor.

    *********(end of addition)********

    A voice for our wild horses and burros cries today in the wilderness of this great endeavor as our country reinvents itself every day God sends. This voice is Craig Downer, who through his love for the wild horses and burros has devoted himself to gaining the knowledge required to save these majestic and important equids on America’s public lands, and the humanity to share his wealth of knowledge and to recognize their spiritual place in American history.
    I urge you to consider Craig Downer’s knowledge and contribution to the fight for the wild horses and burros and to consider his words. He has given a great deal of thought to the nuts and bolts of what might define a sanctuary for wild equids, from a wildlife biologist’s viewpoint. And as I explained, above all, he seems to understand their rightful place in America’s collective consciousness as a living symbol of freedom.
    Please consider including Craig Downer in all your future endeavors and as a kindred spirit and as one of the best qualified, both by graciousness of his nature and singlemindedness of his cause, as a true ally in saving America’s legacy that is our wild horses and burros.

    • Lisa LeBlanc Says:

      Send it, if you haven’t already. Maybe it’ll enforce the notion that Advocates are NOT Star-struck Teeny Boppers with My Little Pony Syndrome but intelligent & thoughtful people whose opinions (should) matter.

      • Janet Ferguson Says:

        It is sent (via her website comments and also in two places (wall and discussions) on her MP Wild Horse Sanctuary Facebook page.

        It was slightly edited but most of it is same as above.

        The End.

        Family groups need to be maintained somehow if the horses can retain their personalities. I think they need to stay in the wild but at least if Craig D. had some input into all this “process” one would feel they were on a truer course. . . and their moral compasses weren’t being upset by uranium deposits, coal deposits and the like. . . .

        P.S. How do migrating birds get thru those wind fields, anyway.

    • Lisa LeBlanc Says:

      I’ve no idea; I’ve seen the windmills on the Alta Monte Pass – they go on one endlessly. I’m fairly certain there are casualties.
      Seems like we trade too much, sometimes.

  16. LOUIE COCROFT Says:

    I READ SOMETHING IN THE PAPER THAT SAID THERE ARE DIFFERENT KINDS OF WINDMILLS–SOME ARE DESIGNED SO AS NOT TO INTERFERE WITH AVIAN FLIGHT PATHS.

  17. LOUIE COCROFT Says:

    JANET, I THINK CRAIG IS ON THE TEAM. LOOK ON MADELEINE’S WEBSITE–THERE ARE PICTURES OF HER VISIT TO THE CALICO ROUND-UP.

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